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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have done that Dave.

In doing so I noticed this from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://birminghamnewsroom.com/christmas-lights-statement/christmas-lights-statement/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;debrief statement&lt;/a&gt;:

&quot;In order to learn from Saturday’s events it is firstly proposed to have a structured multi-agency debrief and secondly &lt;b&gt;to bring in an independent expert in event management and crowd control&lt;/b&gt;, to review the Safety Advisory Group’s processes and procedures and make recommendations for the future.&quot;

Excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have done that Dave.</p>
<p>In doing so I noticed this from the <a href="http://birminghamnewsroom.com/christmas-lights-statement/christmas-lights-statement/" rel="nofollow">debrief statement</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;In order to learn from Saturday’s events it is firstly proposed to have a structured multi-agency debrief and secondly <b>to bring in an independent expert in event management and crowd control</b>, to review the Safety Advisory Group’s processes and procedures and make recommendations for the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, 
Given that comments such as the one above are repeating your &#039;predicted capacity&#039; figure of 5000 which is now clearly an &lt;a href=&quot;http://birminghamnewsroom.com/christmas-lights-cancellation-update/christmas-lights-cancellation-update/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;early mis-reporting&lt;/a&gt; I wonder if you should correct it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,<br />
Given that comments such as the one above are repeating your &#8216;predicted capacity&#8217; figure of 5000 which is now clearly an <a href="http://birminghamnewsroom.com/christmas-lights-cancellation-update/christmas-lights-cancellation-update/" rel="nofollow">early mis-reporting</a> I wonder if you should correct it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Tighe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Tighe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. &quot;one&#039;s&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. &#8220;one&#8217;s&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Tighe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Tighe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicky&#039;s observation about the swimming baths mirrors the ludicrous situation where BCC are spending £12m on a park at Millenium Point for ?nobody whilst the lovely, historic Highgate Park is left to fester. Unfortunately, Highgate Park is surrounded by poor people and &quot;The Whitby Memorial Park&quot; sounds really, really impressive on ones C.V.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicky&#8217;s observation about the swimming baths mirrors the ludicrous situation where BCC are spending £12m on a park at Millenium Point for ?nobody whilst the lovely, historic Highgate Park is left to fester. Unfortunately, Highgate Park is surrounded by poor people and &#8220;The Whitby Memorial Park&#8221; sounds really, really impressive on ones C.V.!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Coxon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Coxon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Birmingham for decades and have only just moved elsewhere. So, events like this shouldn&#039;t bother me any more. But they do.

I agree with you, Pete, that the City Council is completely obsessed with big. It&#039;s been the same for years. 

Millions of pounds have been wasted on trying to convince people that we&#039;re &quot;a great European city&quot; or &quot;a global city&quot; instead of simply allowing the city to speak for itself and to be seen for what it is: a post-industrial conurbation with a buzzing ethnic and cultural mix that should act as a powerhouse for creativity and enterprise. Despite the massive expenditure, these campaigns have always been spread too thinly over too many markets to have any useful effect.

Just look at the mediocrity of ArtsFest: it may be Europe or Britain&#039;s or the world&#039;s BIGGEST free arts event, but it still sucks.

Just look at Marketing Birmingham. A basically pointless exercise in generating press releases about how much press coverage their press releases are getting.

And look at the fiasco of the noise abatement nonsense in Digbeth. At one end of Eastside they&#039;re trying to close down pubs that act as the seedbed for local music, local culture and local talent on an ongoing, day to day basis. At the other end they hire a whole bunch of extremely popular pop stars for a day and then expect only 5,000 people to turn up to see them. Their only excuse, I suppose,was that the event was held at Millenniumn Point - another white elephant on the sacrifical altar of bigness.

What&#039;s to be done about it? How about ignoring the buggers and setting up an alternative co-operative of the talents to promote and foster smaller, more realistic initiatives that can survive without the dead hand (and deader brains) that come with Council involvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Birmingham for decades and have only just moved elsewhere. So, events like this shouldn&#8217;t bother me any more. But they do.</p>
<p>I agree with you, Pete, that the City Council is completely obsessed with big. It&#8217;s been the same for years. </p>
<p>Millions of pounds have been wasted on trying to convince people that we&#8217;re &#8220;a great European city&#8221; or &#8220;a global city&#8221; instead of simply allowing the city to speak for itself and to be seen for what it is: a post-industrial conurbation with a buzzing ethnic and cultural mix that should act as a powerhouse for creativity and enterprise. Despite the massive expenditure, these campaigns have always been spread too thinly over too many markets to have any useful effect.</p>
<p>Just look at the mediocrity of ArtsFest: it may be Europe or Britain&#8217;s or the world&#8217;s BIGGEST free arts event, but it still sucks.</p>
<p>Just look at Marketing Birmingham. A basically pointless exercise in generating press releases about how much press coverage their press releases are getting.</p>
<p>And look at the fiasco of the noise abatement nonsense in Digbeth. At one end of Eastside they&#8217;re trying to close down pubs that act as the seedbed for local music, local culture and local talent on an ongoing, day to day basis. At the other end they hire a whole bunch of extremely popular pop stars for a day and then expect only 5,000 people to turn up to see them. Their only excuse, I suppose,was that the event was held at Millenniumn Point &#8211; another white elephant on the sacrifical altar of bigness.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s to be done about it? How about ignoring the buggers and setting up an alternative co-operative of the talents to promote and foster smaller, more realistic initiatives that can survive without the dead hand (and deader brains) that come with Council involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan O'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything said and have been saying much the same about &quot;thinking small&quot; to anyone who will listen for ages. There is not enough done at the grassroots - it all seems to be so called flagship, big budget projects. 

I know for sure that not nearly enough is done to encourage the city&#039;s writers not to mention artists, designer/makers, musicians,film makers, creatives generally etc. 

Digbeth and Eastside should have some kind of special development area status  and measures that encourage landlords to rent out their otherwise abandoned &quot;landbanked&quot; buildings at peppercorn rents to encourage Birmingham to become a city of a thousand digital trades. 

Take the formerly run down area of Temple Bar, Dublin as the model - it was squatted or rented out at such peppercorn rents and became a place where young people could experiment/make mistakes/collaborate. 

From out of this grew a major tourist atraction and income engine for the city. Birmingham can do the same but it has to lift its head up out of the clouds and really show some vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything said and have been saying much the same about &#8220;thinking small&#8221; to anyone who will listen for ages. There is not enough done at the grassroots &#8211; it all seems to be so called flagship, big budget projects. </p>
<p>I know for sure that not nearly enough is done to encourage the city&#8217;s writers not to mention artists, designer/makers, musicians,film makers, creatives generally etc. </p>
<p>Digbeth and Eastside should have some kind of special development area status  and measures that encourage landlords to rent out their otherwise abandoned &#8220;landbanked&#8221; buildings at peppercorn rents to encourage Birmingham to become a city of a thousand digital trades. </p>
<p>Take the formerly run down area of Temple Bar, Dublin as the model &#8211; it was squatted or rented out at such peppercorn rents and became a place where young people could experiment/make mistakes/collaborate. </p>
<p>From out of this grew a major tourist atraction and income engine for the city. Birmingham can do the same but it has to lift its head up out of the clouds and really show some vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it sounds a tad old-fashioned but given that people in the council don&#039;t read blogs like this but do still read old media why doesn&#039;t someone compose a letter to the Birmingham Post articulating your concerns. It would be one of those signed-by-lots-of-people letters. Otherwise, the above is just a bit of an echo chamber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it sounds a tad old-fashioned but given that people in the council don&#8217;t read blogs like this but do still read old media why doesn&#8217;t someone compose a letter to the Birmingham Post articulating your concerns. It would be one of those signed-by-lots-of-people letters. Otherwise, the above is just a bit of an echo chamber.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky Getgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicky Getgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The council&#039;s obsession with big, flagship tings rather than nurturing the small and beautiful that&#039;s under their noses drives me slightly mad.  Your post made me think of a conversation I had with Andrew Brightwell of Hashbrum about swimming pools - BCC is investing £60 million into a huge Olympic swimming pool that won&#039;t actually be ready in time for the 2012 Olympics, but  smaller historical pools such as Moseley Baths (that people actually care about and rally around) are left to flounder and fester.  It&#039;s very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The council&#8217;s obsession with big, flagship tings rather than nurturing the small and beautiful that&#8217;s under their noses drives me slightly mad.  Your post made me think of a conversation I had with Andrew Brightwell of Hashbrum about swimming pools &#8211; BCC is investing £60 million into a huge Olympic swimming pool that won&#8217;t actually be ready in time for the 2012 Olympics, but  smaller historical pools such as Moseley Baths (that people actually care about and rally around) are left to flounder and fester.  It&#8217;s very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, a great article and asks many questions about the mentality of Birmingham.

My opinion is that Birmingham is trying to out do those cities around us.  Thinking of the Manchesters, Leeds and Liverpools.  

I think it&#039;s ludicrous that a Christmas Light switch on has such a huge billing... Who turns lights on in the middle of the day?

As for some comments on invigorating shoppers...  Did they really think about the demographic they were appealing to with JLS?  Having been involved with one of their gigs during the summer, teenagers go mad for these..  Teenagers don&#039;t take you can&#039;t go in to easily...  Hence the problems...  

It&#039;s my humble opinion that it&#039;s good the fences fell otherwise there would have been deaths and serious injuries..  Tie into that the launch of the Christmas market...  Leads to chaos.

As with many people though, Birmingham can do big as it showed with the Half Marathon a few weeks ago and many free gigs in the past.  Is Millennium Point really the right place though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, a great article and asks many questions about the mentality of Birmingham.</p>
<p>My opinion is that Birmingham is trying to out do those cities around us.  Thinking of the Manchesters, Leeds and Liverpools.  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s ludicrous that a Christmas Light switch on has such a huge billing&#8230; Who turns lights on in the middle of the day?</p>
<p>As for some comments on invigorating shoppers&#8230;  Did they really think about the demographic they were appealing to with JLS?  Having been involved with one of their gigs during the summer, teenagers go mad for these..  Teenagers don&#8217;t take you can&#8217;t go in to easily&#8230;  Hence the problems&#8230;  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my humble opinion that it&#8217;s good the fences fell otherwise there would have been deaths and serious injuries..  Tie into that the launch of the Christmas market&#8230;  Leads to chaos.</p>
<p>As with many people though, Birmingham can do big as it showed with the Half Marathon a few weeks ago and many free gigs in the past.  Is Millennium Point really the right place though?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A major factor in all this is budget against perceived public engagement.  BRMB as a joint organiser will have bank rolled a large part of the event, which no doubt Birmingham City Council will be happy about and are in turn associated with ‘top’ artists.  As well as using private money to support a public event, they’ll also get a BIG crowd and therefore be surely be perceived as the BEST.  But they certainly wouldn’t want to ticket it, as it would then become exclusive and not for all of the people, as a council event should be.

Once upon a time Christmas lights switch-on was about lighting our streets with festive cheer but lets face it we all know it’s now a commercial event to stimulate early spending and council&#039;s across the country are now in the pocket of the retailers.   

There was a time when the Christmas lights switch-on involved a celeb from the The Rep’s Christmas show or a Dame from one of the Pantos, that was the hard sell.  But no one was causing a crush to see Mathew Kelly or the Snowman.  Who is the lights switch-on really for? Do the Birmingham retailers see the teen market who attended Saturday’s event as big spenders?  Taking a child to see the ‘magic’ of the lights is definitely a thing of Christmas Past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A major factor in all this is budget against perceived public engagement.  BRMB as a joint organiser will have bank rolled a large part of the event, which no doubt Birmingham City Council will be happy about and are in turn associated with ‘top’ artists.  As well as using private money to support a public event, they’ll also get a BIG crowd and therefore be surely be perceived as the BEST.  But they certainly wouldn’t want to ticket it, as it would then become exclusive and not for all of the people, as a council event should be.</p>
<p>Once upon a time Christmas lights switch-on was about lighting our streets with festive cheer but lets face it we all know it’s now a commercial event to stimulate early spending and council&#8217;s across the country are now in the pocket of the retailers.   </p>
<p>There was a time when the Christmas lights switch-on involved a celeb from the The Rep’s Christmas show or a Dame from one of the Pantos, that was the hard sell.  But no one was causing a crush to see Mathew Kelly or the Snowman.  Who is the lights switch-on really for? Do the Birmingham retailers see the teen market who attended Saturday’s event as big spenders?  Taking a child to see the ‘magic’ of the lights is definitely a thing of Christmas Past.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Valk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Valk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, that makes sense on so many levels. It&#039;s a great and heartfelt post - thank you. What truly stands out for me is your case for celebrating excellence at all levels. If we get that right, we prosper, period. But I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t see a whole lot of enthusiasm for that at Council level. You know what? I&#039;m tired of grandiose too. 

I note that people are putting the boot into BRMB for this, on this forum and elsewhere, which is slightly unfair. I must stress, by the way, that I have no current connection with BRMB. I think the other local stations must be feeling somewhat relieved it wasn&#039;t their name on this fiasco. Schadenfreude comes to mind, and the thought of BRMB&#039;s rivals rubbing their hands together with glee leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

BRMB deals with pop music; they pulled the line-up together. That&#039;s their home territory. They have staged successful open air freebies many times without incident. However, it is NOT their job to handle security issues. Their role, if anything, is to reflect and support the council&#039;s efforts around events like this. But this was a council event.

Like you say, it&#039;s the focus of the event that caused the problems. I don&#039;t want us to ever be parochial, and I don&#039;t want us ever to react defensively. But do I wish that a Birmingham event like this had smacked less of &quot;Me too! Look at us!&quot;  and been more... well... Birmingham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, that makes sense on so many levels. It&#8217;s a great and heartfelt post &#8211; thank you. What truly stands out for me is your case for celebrating excellence at all levels. If we get that right, we prosper, period. But I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t see a whole lot of enthusiasm for that at Council level. You know what? I&#8217;m tired of grandiose too. </p>
<p>I note that people are putting the boot into BRMB for this, on this forum and elsewhere, which is slightly unfair. I must stress, by the way, that I have no current connection with BRMB. I think the other local stations must be feeling somewhat relieved it wasn&#8217;t their name on this fiasco. Schadenfreude comes to mind, and the thought of BRMB&#8217;s rivals rubbing their hands together with glee leaves a bad taste in my mouth.</p>
<p>BRMB deals with pop music; they pulled the line-up together. That&#8217;s their home territory. They have staged successful open air freebies many times without incident. However, it is NOT their job to handle security issues. Their role, if anything, is to reflect and support the council&#8217;s efforts around events like this. But this was a council event.</p>
<p>Like you say, it&#8217;s the focus of the event that caused the problems. I don&#8217;t want us to ever be parochial, and I don&#8217;t want us ever to react defensively. But do I wish that a Birmingham event like this had smacked less of &#8220;Me too! Look at us!&#8221;  and been more&#8230; well&#8230; Birmingham.</p>
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		<title>By: john mostyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>john mostyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Pete for drawing some views together after the debacle  on Saturday. I&#039;ve been too angry for rational thought yet so have shut up so far. You&#039;ve pulled something really positive out of your reflections and I am most grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Pete for drawing some views together after the debacle  on Saturday. I&#8217;ve been too angry for rational thought yet so have shut up so far. You&#8217;ve pulled something really positive out of your reflections and I am most grateful.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t suppose any blame should be attributed to the herd mentality of the people that forced their way through the barriers? Of maybe ponder the bigger question of celebrity mania? 

I suppose this just goes to show that one should, when organizing an event such as this, assume the worst about people rather than (as seems to have been the case) have an expectation that people will act even semi-sensibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t suppose any blame should be attributed to the herd mentality of the people that forced their way through the barriers? Of maybe ponder the bigger question of celebrity mania? </p>
<p>I suppose this just goes to show that one should, when organizing an event such as this, assume the worst about people rather than (as seems to have been the case) have an expectation that people will act even semi-sensibly.</p>
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		<title>By: focalplane</title>
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		<dc:creator>focalplane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the City of a Thousand Trades analogy.  This whole outdoing Manchester thing is stupid.  Manchester often wins the second city debate because it&#039;s not the second city.  Everyone likes the underdog (and is Manchester an underdog!)

But seriously, Birmingham doesn&#039;t have to prove anything to anybody, by being itself it will succeed.  It always has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the City of a Thousand Trades analogy.  This whole outdoing Manchester thing is stupid.  Manchester often wins the second city debate because it&#8217;s not the second city.  Everyone likes the underdog (and is Manchester an underdog!)</p>
<p>But seriously, Birmingham doesn&#8217;t have to prove anything to anybody, by being itself it will succeed.  It always has.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bounds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Bounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love &#039;big&#039; to be replaced by &#039;best&#039; or actually just &#039;bloody good&#039; — a much more worthwhile and achievable aim in most things.

@Dave I agree with Jules that Artsfest &amp; gigbeth have in the past had problems with overstretching the time/people/stuff available too thin in an effort to be big – it&#039;s not a Council only problem, I don&#039;t think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love &#8216;big&#8217; to be replaced by &#8216;best&#8217; or actually just &#8216;bloody good&#8217; — a much more worthwhile and achievable aim in most things.</p>
<p>@Dave I agree with Jules that Artsfest &amp; gigbeth have in the past had problems with overstretching the time/people/stuff available too thin in an effort to be big – it&#8217;s not a Council only problem, I don&#8217;t think.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - Fair point but I&#039;m looking at this from the outside so I see people rather than a culture. And I&#039;m having a bit of an emotional rant on a Sunday night, not that that&#039;s an excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave &#8211; Fair point but I&#8217;m looking at this from the outside so I see people rather than a culture. And I&#8217;m having a bit of an emotional rant on a Sunday night, not that that&#8217;s an excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: editorialgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>editorialgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, you&#039;re so right. Traditionally, Brummies have revelled - and excelled - in being the underdog and personally, I&#039;m fine with that. It&#039;s embarrassing when our Council leaders try and make us something else. It&#039;s like Birmingham is swanning around in a loud Hawaiian shirt but hasn&#039;t seemed to notice that its contemporaries are all in understated tailored suits.

Whitby et al never seem to ask &quot;is it best for Birmingham?&quot; but instead, &quot;is it better than Manchester/Liverpool/London?&quot; Take the new library (which I appreciate is a whole &#039;nother debate). None of the press releases explain why it will be a really good library... but they all explain how it&#039;s designed by an internationally renowned Architect and will be really massive and funny-looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, you&#8217;re so right. Traditionally, Brummies have revelled &#8211; and excelled &#8211; in being the underdog and personally, I&#8217;m fine with that. It&#8217;s embarrassing when our Council leaders try and make us something else. It&#8217;s like Birmingham is swanning around in a loud Hawaiian shirt but hasn&#8217;t seemed to notice that its contemporaries are all in understated tailored suits.</p>
<p>Whitby et al never seem to ask &#8220;is it best for Birmingham?&#8221; but instead, &#8220;is it better than Manchester/Liverpool/London?&#8221; Take the new library (which I appreciate is a whole &#8216;nother debate). None of the press releases explain why it will be a really good library&#8230; but they all explain how it&#8217;s designed by an internationally renowned Architect and will be really massive and funny-looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe - I&#039;m not in a position to criticise BRMB as I don&#039;t know their track record but I assume the council asked them to do it and so has a responsibility to make sure they&#039;re suitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe &#8211; I&#8217;m not in a position to criticise BRMB as I don&#8217;t know their track record but I assume the council asked them to do it and so has a responsibility to make sure they&#8217;re suitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Harte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general thrust of this I agree with - do more small stuff. And yesterday saw real evidence of the big envy that&#039;s endemic across a range of directorates in the City. 

But your post focuses on people rather culture which I&#039;m surprised at. Sacking senior officials who indeed are experts in their jobs, won&#039;t get us very far. Rather, the City could do with asking how as an organisation it has developed a culture whereby senior officers feel compelled to out-big each other. New people won&#039;t change the culture, new structures might. Elected officials, other than those is the very senior posts, simply don&#039;t hold the power you suggest over senior officers. The chief exec does - and he&#039;s the key person who should be creating a culture within BCC that recognises and nurtures the &#039;small&#039;. 

But the city does need narratives with which to sell itself on the international stage. It needs investment because it has a lot of people who need jobs. We&#039;ve given the Big City Plan too much credence I think. It&#039;s really just a fancy powerpoint presentation to play in Dubai. An expensive one, but if it pays off then it can result in new investment and new jobs. 

Oh and going around saying &#039;Birmingham will be a leading Digital City by 2010&#039; is actually quite handy. In fact I&#039;ve used that line in many a presentation before then going on to talk about how it&#039;s a leading Digital City because the really interesting stuff happens outside the control of the city council. It&#039;s a leading Digital City for its small digital stuff. It&#039;s a leading Digital City because you&#039;re in it. May I be the first to congratulate you on helping the city reach one of its key &#039;big&#039; targets ;)

Actually (@catnip) I think Artsfest and Gigbeth (the latter wasn&#039;t a city council event I thought?) are good models of how doing &#039;big&#039; can work. Both events are the sum of lots of small parts, why not take time to point at them and celebrate them in a focused way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general thrust of this I agree with &#8211; do more small stuff. And yesterday saw real evidence of the big envy that&#8217;s endemic across a range of directorates in the City. </p>
<p>But your post focuses on people rather culture which I&#8217;m surprised at. Sacking senior officials who indeed are experts in their jobs, won&#8217;t get us very far. Rather, the City could do with asking how as an organisation it has developed a culture whereby senior officers feel compelled to out-big each other. New people won&#8217;t change the culture, new structures might. Elected officials, other than those is the very senior posts, simply don&#8217;t hold the power you suggest over senior officers. The chief exec does &#8211; and he&#8217;s the key person who should be creating a culture within BCC that recognises and nurtures the &#8216;small&#8217;. </p>
<p>But the city does need narratives with which to sell itself on the international stage. It needs investment because it has a lot of people who need jobs. We&#8217;ve given the Big City Plan too much credence I think. It&#8217;s really just a fancy powerpoint presentation to play in Dubai. An expensive one, but if it pays off then it can result in new investment and new jobs. </p>
<p>Oh and going around saying &#8216;Birmingham will be a leading Digital City by 2010&#8242; is actually quite handy. In fact I&#8217;ve used that line in many a presentation before then going on to talk about how it&#8217;s a leading Digital City because the really interesting stuff happens outside the control of the city council. It&#8217;s a leading Digital City for its small digital stuff. It&#8217;s a leading Digital City because you&#8217;re in it. May I be the first to congratulate you on helping the city reach one of its key &#8216;big&#8217; targets ;)</p>
<p>Actually (@catnip) I think Artsfest and Gigbeth (the latter wasn&#8217;t a city council event I thought?) are good models of how doing &#8216;big&#8217; can work. Both events are the sum of lots of small parts, why not take time to point at them and celebrate them in a focused way.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that BRMB have to take a lot of the blame for the lights fiasco. I always remember the lights being switched on by some second rate actor from Eastenders which was guaranteed to keep the crowd managable. A free concert with 13 acts and flimsy barriers is just asking for trouble. Birmingham likes to go for big because it ( the current inept leadership) thinks it is a World Class City, global city(?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that BRMB have to take a lot of the blame for the lights fiasco. I always remember the lights being switched on by some second rate actor from Eastenders which was guaranteed to keep the crowd managable. A free concert with 13 acts and flimsy barriers is just asking for trouble. Birmingham likes to go for big because it ( the current inept leadership) thinks it is a World Class City, global city(?).</p>
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