I had a client’s site to create and started with Joomla, but after a week of banging my face into the monitor, I switched to WordPress. Oh the joy of WordPress after dinking around with the catastrophe that is Joomla.

Who hyped this crap?!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I thought it was just me. I thought I’d lost the rational part of my brain, because I’ve spent 2 weeks trying to port an existing site into Joomla.

2 weeks of my life I’ll never get back, but the lesson was priceless. 2 weeks extra time added to the project, so my client can edit the site herself. Arggghhhh….

But I can give people quite a nice site in a commercial template with some nice features that they can manage themselves for a very reasonable price.

I used to use Drupal, but making templates is a pain. I am looking at WordPress these days, also, since the writing is on the wall with Joomla 1.5.

Joomla!’s UI blows. Joomla!’s codebase blows. Joomla! modules suck oh so much.

I have this theory that most of Joomla’s code never runs and is never referenced anywhere. There is just no way in hell that a PHP-based CMS may need that much code. *no way*

At first it looked nice but then I tried to customize it … and WTF? Could they have done it any more confusing? So yeah I agree Joomla sucks ass.

So the next step might be to create our own CMS for the project.

Joomla WAS a very handy CMS system but it became to damn big! I used to be able to build very pretty sites with it that were easy to change for my clients. Now I’m sweating for days just to get a simple 2 column website up and running. And I have to provide a big 30 page how to operate-pdf for my clients and thats just for doing simple stuff.

All this comes from to many programmers running the project. Alan Cooper wrote the book “the inmates are running the asylum” and it’s exactly that! They forget that it has to be used by human beings not NASA shuttle programmers.

It’s indeed nice to read that others share our insite but I have yet to find another good CMS system.

I tried to open a discussion on a Joomla forum about setting up a smaller lighter Joomla version but all I got was people saying I was stupied. You see… thats their problem!

We also have comments but what are our alternatives? It would also be nice if only there would be better themes and templates available. I mean, so many themes and templates I see have cross-browser issues. And to much of my frustration it’s mostly the bigger, expensive ones that are destined to give trouble.

I love webdesign and I love to help people establish an online business but the above things make me wanna build a cabin in the woods with a bamboo canoe and have a lot less worries!

It would be a cross-people compliant canoe!

I thought that it was a paradigm shift and I just didn’t have the cells to make the shift. Now I know that it is not me, Joomla is just a piece of shit.

I am a seasoned developer who can knock out a decent site pretty quickly but I have always been looking for something that I could set up and hand over to end users. Joomla seemed to offer this with nice templates, expandability, nice looking end user interface etc. I can’t hand it over because I can’t figure it out!!!! I have muscled up two sites and wound up managing them myself as I have no idea how to explain Joomla to end users.

For time and effort required to figure how to install it, the pitiful security model, the banal structure, finding/configuring/patching all the modules that you need for everything, making templates, etc., it would just be easier to get out Notepad and code your own CMS from scratch.

Joomla really does suck donkey cock, but it looks good…….

Chose Joomla out of the CMS jungle because there was a Dreamweaver extension for it. Had hoped the templating would harness the whole MySQL thing. Also had hoped it would be a cinch to modify the abundant skin offerings – but no dice.

Joomla is so wired – that to do any tinkering at all – even just for the CSS/design/aesthetics stuff, – you’d probably end up buying as many books as you already own and then STILL find you have to hire someone to get everything worked out.

Will try phpNuke and or WordPress,

Sure, it’s perfect if you absolutely don’t want to write a single line of code ever. Well the UI is pretty awful, but at least it’s got a WYSIWYG editor.

But as soon as you go under the hood and try to accomplish anything out of the box (and I really mean the simplest task), you’re exposed to some of the ugliest, most verbose code I’ve seen in my life. And forget throwing in a PHP snippet here and there, you have to write modules for absolutely everything.

It’s an absolute mess held together by gum and bandaids. The only thing they seem to care about is making it look nice on the surface so they can attract millions of clueless users.

I switched to Drupal, and so far it’s been a love affair :)

Check this out and see what you think.

http://websitebaker.org

I been using it for about a year. I have about 10 sites up and about 10 more for customers. I have 1 site that gets about 1 to 1.5k unique visitors per day and it is rock solid with no problems. I know that is not much but that is what I have to go on. Website Baker is seo friendly with the urls. It does not use the convoluted fukd up publishing system like joomla. Want a page with content? Just fill out a little form and type or paste in your content and it is done.

I am interested to know what others think of this cms.

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not likely to happen in the next 60 years…

Why: Joomla sucks

-urls are like formulas for rocketscience
-if you think you’ve found out how it works, think again, you don’t
-Every page needs to have a category and section
-Very hard to make it not so standard
-Fucks up your server with a giant load, storage an data
-All the n00bs are using it

BTW – the components are not easy to install when Apache sets ownership to “nobody” every time a script creates a file. This means that you need to contact your web host EVERY TIME you install a module. And the FTP layer that is supposed to work around this does not work. So, blah! Just one example of idiocy.