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January 19, 2007
Peekvid will be shut down very soon but before that happens you we can use it to sample a shedload of TV shows in YouTube-style streaming video. It’s actually a really good way of trying stuff before you buy. Fr’instance, I now know the anime series Gundam Seed Destiny is fucking mental in a batshit good way. (Yes, I’m on something on a Giant Robot trip at the moment.) (via)
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dont close peekvideo down its such a good websie
jus done do it
woops type eroor *just dont do it
Ah Man, The site is all done, was just getting into Kenny vs Spenny. C’mon bring it back.
dont close down peekvid man u r a dickhead if u do man it sickhead
shut it down and ur get propa vrex man dum dickead
FUKIN DUM SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
WHAT
Please don’t close Peekvid down, It is the best website ever made. Please don’t.
People, even if I somehow had the power to shut it down I wouldn’t. I’m just saying, you know The Man is going to go apeshit with the lawyer mojo when he sees this. Y’dig?
please dont shut down peekvid, i want to see prison break!! :(
Enjoy peekvid, you idiots.
Once websites like this destroy the entertaiment industry, you will have no new movies to watch, no new music to listen to, no new TV shows, no new videogames to play. You will be forced to entertain yourselves.
Congratulations!
Music thief clearly has no understanding of the mechanics of supply and demand. The only way that the entertainment industry could be destroyed would be if people didn’t want entertainment any more.
You’re all a bunch of fucking morons. Peekvid does not host the movies on their servers. They only link to movies served up on sites like YouTube and DailyMotion. There is absolutely nothing illegal about linking to illegal content, dumbasses! The one’s uploading and hosting the shit are the perps who need to cover their asses.
Haha. I like how people think you have power to shut it down.
Thanks for the recommendation!
To the generation of thieves and every last one of you who download music/videos.
Everytime you cheat and steal the music/video it not only takes away a sale but several sales. Think about it! You will most likely tell friends and they will tell their friends. The producer who created the entertainment looses sales drastically.
Now you have to ask yourself 10 years from now if everyone finds out they can steal online music and videos the producers “will” go out of business. Then I can shake every one of your thieving hands and say thanks to you, you just ruined entertainment for everyone.
All I can say is your a bunch of lying freaks because it does affect the market system and you should be ashamed of yourself.
I love the way the shills for the movie and TV Companies are posting on here calling people who choose NOT to conform to their marketing plan, “Thieves”.. It’s NOT the consumers’ fault that the Industries failed to get a jump on technology..
ummmm… as long as people keep watching the movies the producers will make more, if it a question about sales think about music, everyone downloads it from limewire but does that stop the people from making cd’s? absolutly not! some are even just posting their music on bittorrnat and not making cd’s anymore. it shows that they dont really care if no one buys their cd. i still buy movies and cd’s even if i can watch them online just because ther’re good movies and i want to watch them when i have no access to the internet. also peekvid dosent have everything and also what bout libraries that have dvd and cd collections. the people just burn them then they have their own YAY! and guess what they still make movies and pretty much give them away
Too late…peekvid is down.
information regardless of what in nature will always strive to be free. and those of us who try and make that information free will always succeed, as the technology and intelligence will always supersede laws written on paper
Wow!
You people even try to sound intelligent when you can’t even spell correctly. Like you know how the economy runs. You probably don’t even know what supply and demand are. You think you know about the economy? Try me. I’ll give you feedback on any topic, issue, or problem. For now though, you might want to stick with trying to spell because if you can’t spell you can’t “communicate”.
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Ok Jedi, u seem to think u know ur ass from ur head, so tell me how EXACTLY you think entertainment will be doomed to extinction “if 10 years from now everyone finds out they can steal online music and videos.” Im sorry man your ideas and comments are neither plausible nor possible. Explain yourself before I and all of my micro market economy major buddies to come down on you. YOU ARE A POSER
Qoute from JEDI: “To the generation of thieves and every last one of you who download music/videos.
Everytime you cheat and steal the music/video it not only takes away a sale but several sales…All I can say is your a bunch of lying freaks because it does affect the market system and you should be ashamed of yourself.”
Who The F.U.C.K Are You??? Fucken elitest prick. You not above anyone.
and why does jedi have to completely go off topic and use uncreative attacks as if he is almighty. come on man what are you doing.
Ok, chew on this:
Over $13 billion in software revenue was lost worldwide in 1995 due to software piracy and the trend appears to be growing.
The cost of piracy to software manufacturers remains about the same. By some estimates, that cost exceeds US $15 million per year.
Here is some history for those of you who are software pirates. Think you can get away with it?
In United States v. Rothberg – a case in which SIIA was actively involved — the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois sentenced the defendant to 24 to 30 months in prison. Rothberg pleaded guilty to conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371 to commit copyright infringement in violation of 17 U.S.C. Section 506(a)(2) and 18 U.S.C. Section 2319(c)(1). Rothberg, was one of 17 defendants convicted in connection with the prosecution of the Pirates With Attitudes (PWA), a web-based network that made $1.4 million worth of computer software available to paying members to make unauthorized copies. SIIA and its member companies assisted the government in creating the case against PWA. PWA’s server log files indicated that approximately 55,000 files had been uploaded to the server. Using the number of pirate programs on the server at the time it was seized (instead of the log files), determining that 94 percent of the programs on the PWA server were functioning and establishing that the average retail price of the programs found was $384, the court set the value of the infringing items at least $1,424,640.
In 1997, the No Electronic Theft (NET) Act became law. The NET Act provided for enhanced protection of copyrights and trademarks by amending provisions in titles 17 and 18 of the U.S. Code. The NET Act permits federal prosecution of large-scale willful copyright infringement even where the infringer does not act for a commercial purpose or for private financial gain. This amendment closes the gap in statutory protection discussed in United States v. LaMacchia, 871 F. Supp. 535 (D. Mass. 1994).
On December 11th, 2001 the U.S. Customs Service, in coordination with its law enforcement counterparts in the United Kingdom, Australia, Finland, Sweden, and Norway, executed approximately 70 search warrants worldwide in the initial phase of Operation Buccaneer. This was then the most significant law enforcement penetration of international organizations engaged in the criminal distribution of copyrighted software, games and movies over the Internet. Operation Buccaneer successfully targeted the suppliers, crackers, and leadership of multiple top-level warez groups that specialize in the supply (aka “release”) of new pirated works to the warez scene. These so-called “release” groups included DrinkOrDie, Razor1911, RiSCISO, MYTH, and POPZ. Additionally, the investigation successfully targeted members of several leading “courier” groups that specialize in the illegal distribution and trading of copyrighted works over the Internet, including the groups RequestToSend (RTS), WeLoveWarez (WLW), and RiSC. Collectively, these warez groups were responsible for illegally reproducing and distributing over the Internet hundreds of millions of dollars worth of copyrighted works. Operation Buccaneer was conducted by the United States Customs Service and the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section of the Department of Justice in coordination with the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia, foreign law enforcement, and U.S. Attorneys’ Offices across the nation.
Do you remember when U.S. federal authorities won a four-year jail term for convicted software piracy kingpin Sean Breen last year or how about Razor 1911 which was a major underground piracy operation, all of which is illegal?
Each and every one of you will begin to see a “pay-as-you-go” software over the Internet. Meaning you want to download this movie, sorry it’s going to cost you first. Thanks to you our nation, which you are a part of, just lost 15 billion dollars in revenue for this year. Thanks guys! As long as software piracy exists, there will be fewer jobs, less research and development, increased costs and lower standards of living. Guess what happens when you don’t buy products in the market? They go out of business.
Something to keep in mind: The losses suffered through software piracy directly affect the profitability of the software industry. Because of the money lost to pirates, publishers have fewer resources to devote to research and development of new products, have less revenue to justify lowering software prices and are forced to pass these costs on to their customers. Consequently, software publishers, developers, and vendors are taking serious actions to protect their revenues. Umm… ya, come again when you guys have a better argument.
The last bit of information I will throw at you is, please if you can’t think of better words than curse words for an argument, don’t respond. There is no depth in your words and further more it makes you have a lack of vocabulary.
p.s. Who wrote the phrase: “You not above anyone”?
Thanks to you our nation, which you are a part of…
Sorry, which nation is that?
^^^
Nice cut and paste job from SIIA.net I guess you’ll stand up for copyrights but not plagiarism?
Blah blah…losses…blah suffering…blah…
All you have shown is that the only defense the holders can come up with is to SUE the infringing party. I think perhaps these people you support JEDI are focusing too much on legal battles and not enough on technology to straight up prevent it. When the internet was created it should have been set up with parameters to detect and remove copyrighted material… when your done reading THIS> http://www.isoc.org/internet/history/brief.shtml
You can tell my why your argument is retarded
:) P.S. – NO one is FORCEING the people you support to continue doing bussiness. If they don’t think they are earning enough money$ they should just say ‘Fu.ck you very much’ and peace out… quit your bitchin’…whiny baby.
We can qoute others too,… see…” The last bit of information I will throw at you is, please if you can’t think of better words than curse words for an argument, don’t respond. There is no depth in your words and further more it makes you have a lack of vocabulary.”
KILL YOURSELF….COMMIT SUICIDE….TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE!!! backwards ass puntz
Like I said no depth and no argument but a huge lack of spine and vocabulary. Is that the best you can do, call names and threaten. Wow, America’s finest on this blog. Yes, I looked at your wimpy back-up website. I don’t care where the internet derived from and what it’s intensions are. Here is a question, If you went into a music store and stole 2 cd’s equivilant to the price of $25.00. What’s the difference if I downloaded the songs off the net? Its stealing!
And to answer the question of which nation. ummm…that would be the one I fight for everyday but not for sorry punks like you. No, you just sit there and indulge on your freedoms as an American and think of ways to screw people over. Do you even know what work is? You know, actually working a full 18 hour day for three years just so you can keep you and your family going.
Ok, and so I forgot to site the website, If you want websites to look at and correct your opinion on whether or not it’s legal I would be more than happy.
Don’t even start with your crap about its legal. You know its not and that is what the law says. The law is law and you can’t change it. The fact that you defend piracy tells me its valuable to you. You would do anything to keep it, Right? People like you will be arrested, trust me! lol
Yes, I looked at your wimpy back-up website.
Sorry, do you mean me? It’s kinda hard to tell.
(and it’s “cite”. You cite a website.)
jedi is a fag
http://www.OVGuide.com has some good peekvid clone sites.
Is this the new equivalent of the “Working Gloves” thread, only with more ad-hominem attacks?
You seem to have accepted your new nationality in sanguine fashion, Pete. I’d have asked questions if I’d found myself transferred thusly.
Arrrr shiver me timbers! All this talk of pirates makes me want to dress up and play the part.
Jedi, at first I thought you made sense and seemed okay but (understandably actually as everyone is having a go at you) now you’ve just gone a bit too far and everyone thinks you are a dick. Piracy will always exist until measures are put in place to prevent it, and until now no such measures exist. Whinging about it merely telling everybody to stop because it is illegal is a pointless effort, people will continue to do it because it is free and too easy. I suggest stop wasting your breath, it is falling on deaf ears and no one here wants to hear it. Just my opinion of course.
hmmm. Jedi is nothing but a fool…
Most people WON’T spend money on the stuff they see on peekvid you dunce cap… so where are the losses? and why don’t you buy everyone a TV as well, so that they don’t lose money from people not even owning a TV.
Last I checked these guys were rolling in big dough… i work and they make in an hour what i make in a week… i don’t feel bad… and you’re a complete moron!
hm
looks like you’ve got another ‘runner’ pete…
but then thing that concerns me, is like – do all these people arrested in Operation Buccaneer – were they like raking in loads of cash (& presumably hiding it in offshore accounts (the modern day equivalent of ‘treasure islands’)
i thought a lot of this was about kudos? I mean if you’re cracking software & then offering it on the net for free, then there’s some sort of disparity between effort & reward there.
I supose being a small press comics geek I kind of identify with that disparity.
I would imagine that they have a greater prosecution rate than those arrested under anti-terrorist legistation (just a little UK thing) – i mean – redistribution of ‘wealth’ is frowned upon somewhat is it not?
jedi, i don’t like name calling , but ur a gimp!
did i spell gimp right?
Yes, but if it helps you missed with ‘you are.’
Random thoughts in one paragraph: This may all be technically illegal, i.e. contrary to the laws of the land, but I think you’d need to have severe social and psychological problems to deliberately refuse to watch a free streamed ‘24′ (for example) and instead go and pay to rent it. As others have said, it’s up to the movie companies to move with the times when there are no physical means of enforcing the law. At the moment they are artificially enforcing them through the courts. And, as someone else said, they are free on TV. The TV companies still pay for movies however many possessors of TVs don’t watch them on their TVs. If in the future everyone is watching movies online for free then the movie industry will have to find other ways to make their money. That’s life/progress. It’s like the Post Office insisting we all buy stamps when we can send emails for free.
Not paying such ridiculously high salaries to the leading actors would be a start…
jedi takesit uptheass, i like it mate!
To the pirates:
I will personally see to it that movies that haven’t come out yet are available for everyone to view on the net but it will cost a minimum fee in which the procedes will go to the producer.
Thanks for playing and sorry you lost!
Ok, my point exactly!
See there are other people that feel the same way I do. Thanks for whoever posted that, you are thinking the right way!
Jedi,
I can see your point of view and good job for standing up for what’s right I comend you. One thing you might want to work on is backing up your information on these points.
why are you going to shut peekvid down we are paying for are internet service should not be part of the pack and it is legit because you upload your own thing and watch it so is bassically file sharing
Pete Ashton is shutting Peekvid down because he doesn’t like you, Ass. Just you.
S’right. I hates you, Ass. I hates you.
So,
Any other takers? What nobody else wants to challenge my mind? I told you this would happen and every time nobody seems to believe. You can not steal, plain and simple. Even though it’s right in front of you you still have the option to not click and watch. I repeat it is “YOUR CHOICE” that makes it wrong or right.
Agads, sir, I challenge your mind to a duel.
Pistols at dawn. Only then will honour be satisfied.
Bring it on Russ L. will meet in times square.
j/k
I’ve always been of the opinion that if no-one wants to argue you with it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve won, just that no-one wants to argue with you.
But hey, it’s just my opinion. Maybe you have won!
Congratulations on winning! Have a cake.
Thanks Pete!
Peekvid is but one of hundreds of index sites which now link to streamed movies and TV taken found on the popular video-hosting sites, YouTube, DailyMotion, etc. Of course, Peekvid, as the most popular, is the one getting all the heat at the moment. (It’s under investigation by the US Justice Department, as reported by NBC last week.)
The problem is that, although they don’t host the copyrighted content, they fall foul of the law by ‘facilitating’ illegal activity. And you can bet your bottom dollar that examples will be made of a few of those watching the streamed content too, just as with music.
It’s a shame. I’m all for the sites.
jedi… someone needs to tear you a new asshole
Thanks Paddy! That is very nice of you to say that. You seem to have a lack of brain power if that’s all you can say to me. C’mon we are adults, talk like one.
Pete, no I wasn’t refering to your webcite earlier in the blog. Your webcite is actually pretty cool. So, you’ve made your own camera?
Now now boys, don’t get your knickers in a twist!
Jedi. You spelt website wrong. Sort it out.
JEDI IS A HOMO
Thanks for correcting my spelling you might want to work on your punctuation.
It’s not
Jedi. You spelt website wrong. Sort it out.
It’s
Jedi, You spelt website wrong. Sort it out.
Sort it out.
Thanks
Jedi, it’s not
Jedi, You spelt website wrong. Sort it out.
It’s
Jedi, you spelt ‘website’ incorrectly. Sort it out.
Jeez…
Jedi, you just confirmed how much of a knob you really are. Got ot go, Peekvid is up and running. LOL
Ok, to be grammatically correct.
Is spelt a word? No, I guess not. That would be spelled. You spelled “spelt” incorrectly. Thank you come again. Sort it out.
Jeez…
Who cares if peekvid is up and running that’s not the point. The point is there are five or six other web pages that are up and running too, with the same available movies/shows…
Now, you will begin to see there will be more talk about this same issue on the news and more and more people will begin to speak out against pirating. This will eventualy lead to users paying money to access these web pages. Trust me you will not see this coming unless you do your research for the long run, not just what you like to do. Everything isn’t free in this world. You may think you are getting it free (in reality you are) but in the long run you are doing more harm than good. If you don’t see it your obviously blind to truth and the truth will weed you out in the end. Just think, your an everyday common thief.
Thanks,
Jedi
Another classic from jedi: “Is spelt a word? No, I guess not. That would be spelled. You spelled “spelt” incorrectly. Thank you come again.”
OK, I’ve arrived. Just because ’spelled’ is used in the US of A doesn’t mean that the rest of the world use it. In British English (which I use) ’spelt’ is quite acceptable (i.e., correct). It’s a pity your education isn’t as wide as your arse obviously is.
Woohoo we have a winner! It’s a pity your interpretation of a fannypack or pants is different than ours. Didn’t think I knew about that one did you. Well, I do and guess what my family is from Britian/England… whatever you are. C’mon you got to do better than that.
Jedi,
You need to calm down!
C’est magnifique, mais ce n’est pas la guerre.
Bonjour!
jedi said “fanny”. Ban him! Ban him! … Centuwion. Vewy wuffly.
The site was pretty much clogged with dead links anyway. Try out venivideovici.com instead. It doesn’t have as much content, but I like the interface and the lack of dead links.
Peekvid is up. But what’s this ‘Beta’ thing all about? Does that translate as “we don’tknow how long thissite will be here or if it even works, but we’ve covered ourselves with the ‘Beta’ label”?
You can watch 24 at alloftv.net, BTW.
The idea that “the laws of supply and demand” will guarantee that entertainment will always be available for you even if you steal it is ridiculous.
Movies, TV, and video games are capital-intensive. (That means they cost lots of money to produce). If everyone steals them, there will be no way to pay for their production. If you could download a Mercedes on the internet for free, there would be a ton of demand, but Mercedes-Benz would quickly go out of business.
Similarly, the kind of expensive-to-produce effects-laden entertainment you like — the Matrix, Casino Royale, Harry Potter, Halo 3 — will cease to be if you continue to steal it. You will be left with watching other people’s home movies on YouTube.
Music is a slightly different story. Music is not capital-intensive: you can make it in your bedroom and post it to your website for very little money. Bands are doing this now because their own “fans” are stealing their music and they are increasingly forced to make a living from their live performances only. This is hurting a lot of the indie acts. But the movie, videogame, and TV industries don’t work this way. No more money = no more movies.
You can call Jedi all the names you like. It doesn’t make what you’re doing any less wrong. Nor should you act superior to the artists that you steal from just because you’ve found a way to steal from them without getting caught.
Ultimately, you will pay the price. The only thing left to watch will be advertiser-driven content: movies about toilet paper or diswasher detergent.
Enjoy yourself while it lasts. You will miss entertainment when it’s gone.
The idea that “the laws of supply and demand” will guarantee that entertainment will always be available for you even if you steal it is ridiculous.
Movies, TV, and video games are capital-intensive. (That means they cost lots of money to produce). If everyone steals them, there will be no way to pay for their production. If you could download a Mercedes on the internet for free, there would be a ton of demand, but Mercedes-Benz would quickly go out of business.
Similarly, the kind of expensive-to-produce effects-laden entertainment you like — the Matrix, Casino Royale, Harry Potter, Halo 3 — will cease to be if you continue to steal it. You will be left with watching other people’s home movies on YouTube.
Music is a slightly different story. Music is not capital-intensive: you can make it in your bedroom and post it to your website for very little money. Bands are doing this now because their own “fans” are stealing their music and they are increasingly forced to make a living from their live performances only. This is hurting a lot of the indie acts. But the movie, videogame, and TV industries don’t work this way. No more money = no more movies.
You can call Jedi all the names you like. It doesn’t make what you’re doing any less wrong. Nor should you act superior to the artists that you steal from just because you’ve found a way to steal from them without getting caught.
Ultimately, you will pay the price. The only thing left to watch will be advertiser-driven content: movies about toilet paper or diswasher detergent.
Enjoy yourself while it lasts. You will miss entertainment when it’s gone.
Or maybe, if there isn’t such a pot of gold waiting for them, the film companies will start getting selective about what movies they make. Then quality will become important and when we go down the rental shop, dogding the crap will less resemble a minefield. If pirating means no more second-rate, cheapo straight-to-CD drivel then that’s OK by me. It’s not like most people have time to watch that many movies anyway. Perhaps this is a kind of Gaia effect working in the film industry: the good movies will always be made but the new equilibrium will kill off the superfluous parasites…
Thinking out loud, like…
OK, wisearse. I meant straight-to-DVD.
So you think that stealing music will somehow magically lead to the elimination of movies you DON’T like?
Very unlikely. The junk is cheap and easy to make. It’s the good stuff that’s expensive. There will be plenty of junk being made after this is all over.
Are you telling me that you sit around watching garbage on Peekvid? Do you have that much time to waste? No, you watch the stuff you want to watch — the good stuff. By definition, you’re stealing what you like to watch. Therefore, you’re doing the opposite of what you claim — you’re stealing from the people who make the entertainment you like.
All these arguments you make are designed to make you feel virtuous about doing something you know is wrong. “I’m really punishing the movie studios for making bad movies — so it must be OK!” This is called rationalization, and it’s the refuge of the weak.
You’re stealing. Admit it, and you’re just a common thief. If you don’t admit it, you’re a thief and a hypocrite as well.
all you fucking morons are going on and on how peekvid so good has everything saves you money and all let me tell you something if their fucking web site will fucking load once before waiting twenty minutes itching your balls and for you chicks out there i dont know what your doing then ill cellabrate
what the fucks your problem mike
Mike’s an effin moron. ‘Nuff said. Should’na skipped school, mate.
IM A MASSIVE WANKER
And when I’m not making a fool of myself on the Internet I like fondling little boys.
if find that vidlist.net isn’t too bad.. no banners and full screen well worth look..
vidlist.net
Piracy is not theft, as theft involves the removal of an item (or items) from their rightful owner AS WELL AS their procurement by somebody else (the thief). Piracy is, well, piracy, or copyright infringement, not theft.
If I stole your car, that’s theft. If I steal your car and leave you an identical working copy, that’s piracy. Car piracy. ;)
With that out of the way – as others have said, a lot of downloaded music and video is by those people who WOULD NOT have purchased the items in the first place. There are no lost sales to these people. If this is the case, who is the victim of this crime and where do the losses arise? (Jedi and music thief, your input would be welcome here, since to me this appears a victimless crime.)
With regards to piracy ‘destroying the future of multimedia’ – the future of multimedia should seek to harness new technology, not oppress it. Online music stores are only just recently starting to utilise what Napster and filesharing network began years ago. That is how the industry should react to technological challenge – innovate, not exterminate.
‘High octane’ video games with graphical and audio bells and whistles are more likely to be killed off by their own shallow values than piracy. Financially, it takes a hell of a lot of money to make modern graphics, special effects, music and sound, which means that every single game that has these modern features is a large financial risk to the producers. Therefore, they will be more likely to stick to ‘proven’ successful formulae (e.g. Need For Speed Underground Turbo Red IV-2 Gold Edition: Most Wanted) rather than developing new and groundbreaking games.
With the result, naturally, that the industry may stagnate and consumers, bored with the chattel they’re being thrown, lose interest – thus causing more financial loss and probably hardening the producers’ commitment to the bland market they’ve created.
The video, music and computer game industries need to snap out of the mindset of ‘the consumers aren’t playing fair’. The consumers play how they want to play, the industries serve and make money from their playing. Adapt to it, don’t try to control it.
You are using a very narrow and self-serving definition of theft. You seem to want it to apply to goods and not services.
I assume you have a job, or have had at one time. Imagine that you worked at your job for 40 hours. At the end of the week, you expect to get a paycheck. But your employer decides not to pay you. He reasons that no harm has been done, as no physical object has been taken from you. All you have lost is your labor, which doesn’t exist in a physical sense. Are you still entitled to the money? Of course you are. You’re entitled to be paid in exchange for services just as you are for goods.
An entertainer provides you a service. If you take his services without paying for them, you are stealing from him. It doesn’t matter if it’s a physical object or not.
The media industry does need to adapt. But trying to pin the blame on them for piracy is ridiculous. You’re like a thief who argues that his crime is actually the shopkeeper’s fault because the shopkeeper didn’t have an expensive enough alarm system. When someone robs your house, will you accept this argument? Or will you expect the police to prosecute the criminal?
I would have more respect for someone who acknowledges that what he’s doing is wrong, even if he keeps doing it, than for someone who hides behind flimsy arguments and rationalizations.
I see someone is using my name and posting nasty things about me. Nice going you sound very immature and your brain could fall out at any second. People like you don’t deserve to post anything on Pete’s weblink. Your a freak, you have nothing to offer the world, and your not smart enough to come up with your own name. I guess that makes you nameless. Wow, did I just degrade you without using the same kind of language you used?
You are a Jedi imposter!
Quote by jedi: ‘your not smart enough to come up with your own name’.
Oh dear. Like lambs to the slaughter…
Firstly, “your” is the second person singular possessive. “You’re” is a contraction of ‘you’ and ‘are’. Regarding the question of my intelligence, I have at least been aware of this obscure grammatical fact probably from the age of about 7.
BTW my name really is Jedi takesit uptheass. Takesit was my maternal grandmother’s maiden name.
Really.
Making use of material under a copyright without permission (as in, you did not purchase it) does affect the entertainment industry. In some cases, it works out well for the entertainment industry, as online distribution, whether legal or not, has helped many would be “in the bargain bin in six weeks” projects to catch on. In other cases, it has caused thousands and thousands of lost sales.
This problem isn’t new. Music piracy has been around long before computers were household electronics. Software piracy has been around since long before music was on most computers. What becomes so difficult about digital materials is that we have come to a point where we have to accept limiting access and use to certain numbers (bit streams) because one of the infinite possible ideas they could represent happens to fall under a copyright. But hey, no ones downloading the last five seasons of twenty four because the divx encoding of episode 34 happens to be the same as their lucky number in some obscure floating point representation. We all know what we’re doing. So do the people making laws.
There’s a lot of people saying that “they can’t stop us”. There’s also a lot of people saying “you’re ruining everything”. Well, both sides are right. Digital materials cannot be protected very easily at all. Even the most extensive schemes of digital rights protection can easily be washed off by capturing raw streams and re-encoding them as something some lucky people can even view on the cell phone web browser.
That’s technology. And yes, its ruining everything. It happens. If we release “the automobile”, there will surely be drunken fools who plow piles of young innocent children into forests of trees that are being drenched with burning jet fuel from the airliner that just went down. In the meantime, we’re running out of oil and the sun is going to explode (well, I guess the last one there has nothing to do with us, but who knows). I think we should have stuck to BBQ, campfires, and seven day work weeks to avoid this disaster that the world has become. But I don’t even have the power to take my own garbage out. Watching illegal TV is just so much more fun.
Whether its right or wrong, the entertainment industry as we know it is very, very young. To be too upset at its loss in the next fifty years would be like putting yourself out of your misery because you can no longer get “those damn MC Hammer pants”. Stuff happens, things change, and there are new things. Historically, entertainment has been free much longer than it has been commercial (well, with the exception of much historical entertainment involving death, torture, and beheading – I guess we can’t say that’s free for EVERYONE). If it goes back that way, its because the whole commercial entertainment thing didn’t work out. It has surely been notable enough to show up in your grand children’s pirated history e-book, but that’s just what a lot of what we’re used to will be – history.
The unfortunate thing is that with all of this bickering, we’ve only slowed down the development of some great data encoding and network technologies over the years. One of the most revolutionary peer-to-peer systems after the popularity of Napster was pulled off the net after a few months because the corporation that engineered it realized it was an “oh shit” idea (Gnutella). But there were many, many others working on something similar at the same time. Piracy has pushed developments in security and cryptography further than they have ever been pushed, because now, something much more vital to the survival of this universe is at stake than national and personal security: the profits of “American Pie 5″.
The truth is there’s no way to stop people from developing and using streaming video and peer to peer technologies. And it is good that there isn’t. They’ve turned out to be pretty helpful tools so far. But as with anything, there’s side effects. Technology will change the world we live in. It WILL make some people lose their jobs. It WILL make some TV shows go off the air. But that’s life. You get lucky sometimes, and sometimes a piano falls on your head. Complaining about it just makes people compare you to Metallica. Settle down about this stuff and enjoy it while its fresh.
To Takesit,
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Takesit? whatever!
I agree that what we are doing is wrong, and that tha companies are losing tons of money. But with that said, i say i will keep watching movies online and downloading music, why? because there are tons and tons of movies, cd’s, software out there that suck, and i would like to give it a try or wacht it or hear it before i buy it. I live in Mexico and the pay here its not that good. Sometimes we buy cd’s without even hear them before buyin it and we end up regreting it.
So blame me if you want, say what you want to say about me, but i will most definitely will download a movie or a cd before i buy it.
Like you said it’s wrong, but i don’t see it any other way.
A slightly different tack: ‘24′ is now being shown on TV in the US. Where I am, it is not. But where’s the harm in me watching it online? No-one’s losing money at all if I do. Once something is broadcast into the air, I say it’s fair game for anyone, even if it’s re-routed through another medium.
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