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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t mistake legal for evil</title>
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		<title>By: James Bennett</title>
		<link>http://peteashton.com/2006/05/dont_mistake_legal_for_evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

I&#039;m not a lawyer but in another life I did a ton of intellectual-property research, and your analysis seems spot-on.

If MySpace didn&#039;t have this clause in their terms, they&#039;d have no license to show anything you posted to anyone else and, since anything you create is your copyrighted work, they&#039;d be committing copyright infringement if they did show it to anyone else. If it weren&#039;t there, someone could write and record a song, upload it to MySpace, and then go to court; the proceeding would look something like this:

Judge: Mr. Murdoch, you distributed this person&#039;s song to third parties. Did you have a license?

Rupert Murdoch: Well, Your Honor, he did upload it to our site...

Judge: I didn&#039;t ask if he uploaded it. I asked if you had a license to distribute it.

Rupert Murdoch: Well, no, not explicitly...

Judge: I find for the plaintiff. Mr. Murdoch, you&#039;re guilty of copyright infringement.

The &quot;residual&quot; bit is much the same; large content storage systems use a lot of redundancy (that&#039;s the &#039;R&#039; in &#039;RAID&#039; -- Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks -- which is one of many ways of handling huge amounts of data), and there&#039;s no guarantee that when a file is deleted in one part of the system it will immediately disappear from all other parts. So the license covers that, too, just in case.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer but in another life I did a ton of intellectual-property research, and your analysis seems spot-on.</p>
<p>If MySpace didn&#8217;t have this clause in their terms, they&#8217;d have no license to show anything you posted to anyone else and, since anything you create is your copyrighted work, they&#8217;d be committing copyright infringement if they did show it to anyone else. If it weren&#8217;t there, someone could write and record a song, upload it to MySpace, and then go to court; the proceeding would look something like this:</p>
<p>Judge: Mr. Murdoch, you distributed this person&#8217;s song to third parties. Did you have a license?</p>
<p>Rupert Murdoch: Well, Your Honor, he did upload it to our site&#8230;</p>
<p>Judge: I didn&#8217;t ask if he uploaded it. I asked if you had a license to distribute it.</p>
<p>Rupert Murdoch: Well, no, not explicitly&#8230;</p>
<p>Judge: I find for the plaintiff. Mr. Murdoch, you&#8217;re guilty of copyright infringement.</p>
<p>The &#8220;residual&#8221; bit is much the same; large content storage systems use a lot of redundancy (that&#8217;s the &#8216;R&#8217; in &#8216;RAID&#8217; &#8212; Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks &#8212; which is one of many ways of handling huge amounts of data), and there&#8217;s no guarantee that when a file is deleted in one part of the system it will immediately disappear from all other parts. So the license covers that, too, just in case.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 05:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(IANAL) That&#039;s exactly what it says, and should be entirely clear from the following sentence (ie: This licence will terminate..., etc)

But that doesn&#039;t make a very interesting story, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(IANAL) That&#8217;s exactly what it says, and should be entirely clear from the following sentence (ie: This licence will terminate&#8230;, etc)</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t make a very interesting story, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni Scott</title>
		<link>http://peteashton.com/2006/05/dont_mistake_legal_for_evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1971</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenni Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 14:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that few people have been taking all that much notice of this -- yes, there&#039;s the BoingBoing post, the original Open Business post, this one, and the Resonance one. I expect you&#039;ve seen more; I haven&#039;t looked. But not a huge buzz; not a wave sweeping the blogosphere demanding outrage and action.

It&#039;s as if people are ok with hearing that MySpace is evil and that they don&#039;t really care all that much. Now, if you look at the terms and conditions with more than a casual eye then they don&#039;t actually look particularly evil anyway, but even without questioning it people don&#039;t seem to be all that worked up about it all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that few people have been taking all that much notice of this &#8212; yes, there&#8217;s the BoingBoing post, the original Open Business post, this one, and the Resonance one. I expect you&#8217;ve seen more; I haven&#8217;t looked. But not a huge buzz; not a wave sweeping the blogosphere demanding outrage and action.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as if people are ok with hearing that MySpace is evil and that they don&#8217;t really care all that much. Now, if you look at the terms and conditions with more than a casual eye then they don&#8217;t actually look particularly evil anyway, but even without questioning it people don&#8217;t seem to be all that worked up about it all&#8230;</p>
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