The first thing that happened when I got off my bike at the Jug of Ale in Moseley was I discovered for the first time in my life I had pins and needles in my bollocks. It’s a very strange and not particularly pleasurable sensation and though it went away fairly quickly I mention it purely in the spirit of Gonzo journalism because it might be important. Who can tell.
GDFAF #2 then, which consists of me going to a gig on my own to see three bands I’d never heard of. Both these things were novelties, the latter part of the plan, the former an unfortunate side effect of going out every night for a fortnight. In retrospect I’m not sure why this is such a big deal – if there was a band I really really wanted to see then it wouldn’t be an issue, but spending two and a half hours in a pub with no idea what I was going to experience was somewhat daunting. There’s also the issue that when I go with someone I tend to be the optimistic one. Chum will say something derogatory about the band and I’ll counter that they’re not so bad. Without that sounding board I was more likely to just go with the negative, especially when surrounded by people I would be instantly stereotyping as vacuous wankers. So bear that in mind. But don’t bear it too much in mind because I’m pretty sure I’m on a road to accuracy with this one.
Consider this: a Saturday night at one of the main small venues in the city, where countless great bands have played brilliant sets. You’d expect something special, or at least a reasonable level of quality. It would seem your expectations should be lowered. Even allowing for the fact that this was bonfire night and most self-respecting thrill seekers were off watching the bangs and lights you’d hope the local music scene (and they were all Brummies) would do better than this. It was a night of skillful mediocrity. There were brief moments of inspiration but on the whole, nah, I wouldn’t have bothered mate.
First up were The Tates who played to an audience of about eight people including me and the lead singer’s girlfriend, but unlike The Goods yesterday they were gracious about it and thanked us for listening. They played a kind of soaring pop-punk with moments of Oi and they wouldn’t have been out of place at a punk festival or biker rally. They weren’t doing anything new or radical but they got the job done in an honest, competent manner. And there’s not really much more I can say about them.
Next up was possibly the lowlight of my recent gigging career. Sweet Lilly were a covers band who didn’t do any actual covers. My first reaction was throwback Manchester rock. I mean, I liked 
Oasis and Cast and especially the Stone Roses at the time but c’mon, is this stuff really still necessary? At one stage they even riffed off The Levellers for christ’s sake! Of course it was all note perfect and performed with the delusion that this is the kind of thing bands are supposed to do but there was no spark of originality or wit whatsoever. Also of note was how just before they started the room was invaded by all their mates who immediately left as soon as they’d finished. I guess since these bands get paid a token share of the door if that then playing a gig at the Jug purely to entertain your friends is fair enough. For sure, most bands try and pack in their chums (at least until they get actual fans) but it would be preferable if they’d just hire a room somewhere and keep it to themselves rather than inflicting their asinine tedium on my soul. Towards the end of the set they opened with a Stone Roses riff which morphed into an Oasis vocal with lyrics that said absolutely nothing at all. I found myself realising why no-one goes to gigs unless they know the band – you find yourself at the whim of people who can play guitar but have no idea what a guitar is really for.
So after that abortion the headlining band had better be good. No, they’d better be amazing. I’d braved fireworks and the threat of a light drizzle to come here tonight. The Bleak started with a song that sounded a hell of a lot like Led Zep. They then followed this with a Jimmy Hendrix cover, then a song which owed a fair bit to Pink Floyd. After a while they covered the Beatles’ “While My Guitar Gently Weeps”.
Ah well…
To their credit they were definitely enjoying themselves and it was interesting to see what were essentially a bunch of kids playing around with this sort of stuff and not taking it at all seriously. I was ready to write them off as another bloomin’ covers band when in the middle of one of their own songs the two guitarists stepped off to the side for a drink while the drummer did a fucking drum solo! Not even your dyed in the wool cock-rocking metal band would have that sort of audacity! They then finished up with a big fat instrumental blues jam which was, as you’d expect, perfectly competent and probably the best thing I’d heard all night but is it really headlining material?
I’ll say it again – this was a Saturday night at one of the main venues for local bands in Birmingham, a venue at which I have attended some of the best gigs of my life by some of the most interesting groups in the area. As a showcase for Birmingham this was very poor. Maybe we can blame all the fireworks displays for taking the custom elsewhere (the pub was noticeably quiet compared to yesterdays crush) but I’m not here to be generous. I’m going to 14 gigs in 14 days. My patience is limited.
Coming up tomorrow are the Polysics at the Barfly, a new-ish venue I’ve not been to yet. They’re Japanese. This is promising. As is the blurb: “With wild costumes and a pulsing, energetic live show, they perform technicolor pogo punk in a variety of languages including Japanese, English and their very own ’space language’.”
Wednesday I’m pushing the boat out and spending a whole ten pounds on a ticket to see Melt Banana at the Custard Factory. While not strictly a small gig I would be a fool to miss it.
Friday is Jeffrey Lewis at the Jug which will be my third time seeing him. This will be excellent, I promise you.
The other gigs (which you can follow on my Upcoming page) I have no idea about. Here’s hoping I’ve hit the low point early on, eh?
(Monday is still empty. There are expensive gigs at the Academy and not much else so I’ll be looking for a pub with “live entertainment” unless someone has a better idea.)
Reading your post has reminded me why i rarely go to the Jug anymore. Bearing in mind its near legendary status, almost every band ive seen in there has been forgetable. Ive also noticed the fact that the crowds are almost entirely formed by band members mates.
My suggestion for monday; is there anyone playing at the Flapper and Firkin? you know the pub by the canal behind the ICC? im sure they used to have live acts on a monday for about £3.
looking forward to reading about the rest of your GDFAF challenge.
bob
The thing is I’ve had a pretty good track record at the Jug recently, specifically Misty’s Big Adventure and Jeffrey Lewis, and have good memories of seeing bands like Novak there in the late 90s. And as a venue I really like it – not to big but with enough depth.
What’s needed on the posters is a code that distinguishes the interesting experimental bands from the mediocre ones, though that’s horribly subjective I grant you.
(Nice blog by the way)
hi its rob, the guitarist from the bleak.
thanks for the review, but why have you said almost passable things here then called us shit on ur radio thingi? just wondered. also, did you take any more photos as the ones on here are quite nice.
ta
Sorry about that Rob – it was reocrded in an hour at the end of the night when I was very tired indeed and I didn’t notice that slipup until it was already out there. My bad.
Yes, Ihave more photos. Originally I was just going to put up one for each band but that soon fell by the wayside so I’ll be putting up some more later. Email me (see top of page) if you want to discuss it.
peter ashton, the main man who goes round on his bike like a sad cunt to watch bands and all he does is slag em off.
keep up the good work mate or shud i say not.
at least myself and my band are making music and enjoying ourselves on a sat nite rather than taking fotos of boys playing guitars.
wats a mata, u a pervert or sumat u weirdo
big up the sweet lilly crew as they are guna be around 4 a long time and do sumat wiv there lives….unlike u u sad bastard.
sweet lilly 4 eva u bald headed 4 eyed prick!!!!!!
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Im the bassist from Sweet Lilly and ive just read your review of us on your website. I’d like to point out afew discrepancies you’ve made about us. For a start off,who said we’re a covers band?! We’ve never played a cover of ANYONE’S! So no, we didnt play anything by The Levellers, I don’t even like them! We write our own material.
Secondly, I personally confronted you at The Academy as to dtermine who you are and why you were taking photographs of us, at NO POINT did you ask our permission to publicly display these images on your website or anywhere else. So in future, please ask for our permission. Otherwise we will take legal action against yourself.
To finish off, if my memory serves me correctly, you seemed to enjoy our music. So if you havn’t the bollocks to tell us at the time you think we’re shit, why bother telling anyone else?! I mean, who exactly is this “tedium” of yours aimed at you lowlife twat?
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Jesus, ive never seen your sad website before until one of our mates told us about it. You’ve got a radio slot? How the fuck did you manage to get that? You would’nt recognise talent if it kicked you in the bollocks! All you do is slag people off for having a go at making something of themselves. Do you actually play an instrument yourself?(Apart from your member obviously). Or do you just enjoy putting others down? Photos are’nt bad though.
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avit, just like 2 say heard the lilly boys n they r fucking top man dya knw wat i mean.
oh cast r from liverpool not manchester n who the fuck r the levellers.
oh u said that the boys dont knw wat a guitar is for.
well i saw em strumming the bastard fing so i fink they do. hey man, instead of interfearing in other peoples business u wanna concentrate on ur sad life. how rock n roll going 2 a gig on a bike.
lots of love….
liam xxx
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i would just like 2 say, sweet lilly r the best band eva! i do not no the band personally, but i make sure i go 2 evry gig wen they r on becus i think they r very talented and r goin 2 go very far!
so i do not no who u think u think u r but u obviously do not no good music wen u hear it!!!
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Hello, another Sweet Lilly FAN here! It’s funny, was LISTENING to the boys on sunday night at the chestnut tree pub, sheldon(free plug)& had a lad come up to me in the toilets asking who the band were, and seemed pretty impressed with the set. I also remember a crowd at the flapper n firkin who were ‘MATES’ of some other band that were playing that night & were cheering on sweet lilly more so than their mates band. It’s also funny how they get asked back to places like the jug of ale, bar academy etc, sometimes headlining, and the crowd increasing at every gig, being as, according to you pete ashton, “only have their mates come to listen to them” and are “a covers band who don’t play covers”.
Also, how can you criticise the lyrics of the songs as you have only heard the band twice? These lads know how to entertain a crowd with their OWN music & will carry on entertaining as it is their passion, which obviously you know nothing about judging by your knowledge of music(or lack of rather)& your shoddy reviews!
I suggest you should go & do some write ups on moody rap type music, as it’s probably more up your street!
P.S Mr Ashton, do you do this jurno stuff for a living? I imagine you don’t get paid much as you have to turn up to gigs on a bike. Bet you’ve only got “Lighters ‘n’ Pennies” in yer pockets!
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Dear Pete
After reading the review of Sweet Lilly on your perfectly designed web site (!!!!!) after venturing out from your southern suberb (wrong) I felt compelled to offer my opinion not only on your review of the band but also the mental issues I feel you have to deal with.
It was nice that you chose to offer quotes like ?note perfect? but I felt that your reference to Sweet Lilly riffing off to The Levellers was a bit extreme. You?ve obviously had a little too much time on your hands as well as holding something else. To quote a famous member of a famous Manchester band there?s only so many notes and so many lyrics that can be written so to accuse them of ripping off Manchester bands like Cast (ha) is a little extreme.
These boys are hard working down to earth lads who LOVE doing something many people think they?re good at and I don?t mean just their mates. Dedication is something that these boys have, believing that whether they become the next best thing is irrelevant, they go on stage and perform like no-tomorrow, enjoying every minute.
For you and Macy to write that people like these lads should hire a room and keep it to themselves is derogatory and yes it is an opinion of yours and not of a majority. To say that these lyrics meant nothing at all is an opinion of YOURS and yours alone but I am of the opinion that there?s more shit talked on this web site than there was on the organic farm you attempted to work on.
Its clearly visible in your ?not writing about your-self? web pages that you need to get away from the pc and social networking a little more often, get your finger out of your ass and socialise with real people (not cyber-space) and find out what Birmingham is all about.
Next time ask for consent before you decide to offer your John Peel (not) reference and tone down your tedium offerings before you get hounded out of another area to make it 23 abodes.
Get a job and educate yourself to the real world.
Yours truly, ?Not a mate of Sweet Lilly?
Keep up the good work lads
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Bet ur friends names are Neil and Bob cos thats wot YOU do
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Is that everyone?
Actually, those eight comments came from three ip addresses [in brackets] so I’ll go out on a limb here and say we’re dealing with three people here, or at least three computers.
Sam [81.156.111.195]: Um.. actually I’ll move swiftly on…
Anon [82.36.40.104] (9.42pm): I never said you were a covers band. Also I don’t remember meeting you at the Academy, or at least not someone who specifically mentioned this gig. That said, it’s all a bit of a blur. This tedium is primarily aimed at my regular readers who seem to enjoy it.
Anon [82.36.40.104] (9.59pm): Not surprised you’ve never heard of my site. Millions of people haven’t. it’s just a weblog in a sea of millions of weblogs. I don’t have a radio slot – I do a podcast which is a bit like a radio show except I host it myself. I don’t play an instrument at the moment but I used to play the trombone. I don’t enjoy putting people down, truth be told.
Liam [81.156.111.195]: Indeed…
Anon [81.156.111.195] (10.43pm): You’re not doing them any favours here…
Lilly [82.37.243.222]: I was judging them in the context of randomly attending a gig at the Jug. Before entering the venue I’d committed myself to writing honestly about that gig along with 13 others and so I did so. What I wrote was my personal opinion and I stand by it. I would ask, though, why does a paragraph written on some bloke’s weblog hold so much weight to you? As you say, many people like their music and they will continue playing it, so what does it matter what I say?
No, I don’t do this for a living and to be honest am not interested in doing so. Other than some donations (from my readers) I did this all at my own expense, paying for entry rather than blagging freebees and taking unpaid time off work, so my reviews are honest reactions of a paying punter. And what’s wrong with cycling to gigs? Beats getting the last bus home and missing the encore.
Bill [82.36.40.104]: Your review of me and my site is actually very similar to my review of Sweet Lilly – a snapshot taken without any real understanding of the history, personalities or motivations involved. As such you’re perfectly entitled to it. Doesn’t bother me. So why does mine bother you?
Anon [82.36.40.104] (12.08am): Homophobia is always pleasant…
In summary then, I think this has more to do with Google rankings than anything else.
Google rankings? Oh, i see, you’re avoiding the subject in hand. Pete, if all you can do is criticise any other bands other that your favorites such as MISTYS BIG ADVENTURE (witnessed their act myself, WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ALL ABOUT?) I strongly recommend you spend less of your precious time on your “weblog”, get out in the real world doing a real job in the hope you might make some friends with real human beings instead of feeding your pussy BONEMARROW!
[82.36.40.104], you can recommend all you want. It’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it. As for avoiding the subject, “Sam” googled “sweet lilly review” and found my post as the top result, which has got to be annoying but there’s nothing much I can do about that.
If that’s not the issue then why are you so bothered about what I think? You obviously have different tastes in music and are presumably happy with what you’re doing, so why should you give a shit what I spend my time on? This is the opinion of one man – why is it such a big deal?
shut up pete!!!
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Message to The Lilly. Remember lads there’s no such thing as bad publicity.
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Big up The Lilly.
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Completely off subject (!) I remember standing on the terraces at the Dell when the Saints hosted the Spurs (it would be around 1969) when a lone Spurs supporter started shouting in a high pitched voice “Up the Lillywhites!” at which point some dockers with hob nailed boots decided they’d heard enough. The same might apply here except we’ll keep the boots out of it.
Now, Sweet Lilly, give us a break! The best thing you can do is note the negative comments and move on, perhaps having learned something. The worst thing you can do is be petty.
sweet lilly r looking 4 a new bass player.
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First of all I would like to point out I have been to see many bands in the last few years and SWEET LILLY would have to be by far the best band I have come accross. I have spoken to the lads at a few of there gigs and they seem really sound down to earth lads who enjoy playing their music to the growing fan base and never fail to dissapoint. Bands are all about people like Sam, Dave, Ollie and Pete who have an awesome presence on the stage and have the right look to match. All I can say lads is keep playing your music enjoy yourselves and the reward will come thats for sure!!!!!
Pete Ashton : Those who can’t do it TALK/WRITE about it on poor quality web sites.
Do everyone a big big favour and get on your bike and ride as far away from birmingham as you can and inflict your pathetic negative comments on someone else!
Respect up and coming bands and show them the support they rightfully deserve.
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Now dont get me wrong, Sweet Lilly have had some hard knocks in the past and can take it on the chin. But Mr.Ashton seems to love the sound of his own vocabulary! If you cant write a review of a band with just one compliment, why put yourself in the spotlight and not expect any form of retaliation? Anyway, who’s telling me to shut up? I dont mind, id just like to know. Sorry Mr.Ashton, your website seems to have become a forum for roudy brummies.
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no i was tellin pete ashton tp shut up not you!!!
LILLY LILLY LILLY LILLY!!!!!!!
Hmmm….. ever heard of subjectivity? SL, have you ever considered the gruesome but realistic fact that not everyone on this planet will like what you do? I’m not knocking your music or your talent, but respect that not everyone have the same taste which, thankfully, means that Brum isn’t Hum-Drum-Brum.
People are entitled to their own individual opinions. Unfortunately, the conduct of those affiliated to SL in terms of their comments here does nothing to encourage others to go and see what all the fucking fuss is about. Or, then again, maybe it will. But you’ll have to get a grip on your skills of publicised communication if you really want to make something of the band. Otherwise, the labels and lawyers will eat you for breakfast.
And, as for ’sam’, note the equipment in front of you is a keyboard and not, in fact, a mobile phone. Text typing on a PC? You lazy, ill-educated fucker. I hate uneducated bastards, I am forced to support them by working my backside off and coughing up taxes to support their ‘lifestyle’ of sitting around, doing fuck all, whinging and spouting shite.
I’m always intrigued by local talent, and long may it live and evolve. I also like the freedom to be free to express liking or loathing something, which is perhaps why this is an inherent trait of our culture. Don’t stifle either, for that would be the death of creativity. And that would result in a word of Britney Spears and McFly clones and then I would have to go out and become an axe murderer.
Gawd. It’s ever-so-slightly entertaining to see people live up to a reputation for being stupid. Give ‘em enough rope, etc, and be entertained by the result. Swot Lally should consider a future as graffiti comedians. The various comments make a mockery of the fans, if not the band itself. Could work out to be quite an act.
Sweat Lolly, elegantly put, my friend.
Pete,
a lot of people enjoy your blog. Do you really need to care what a bunch of muppets who can only type in text speak think? I bet they were a wow at winning playground arguements with all those witty put downs.
Sigh.
This is the funniest thread of comments I’ve read in a long time.
It’s hard to believe that people can get so upset because someone happened to voice an opinion that they didn’t agree with. And then they try and insult Pete by calling him “sad”, only they do it using “txt tlk” …
Oh, the irony.
Hello there,
Sweet Lilly- I’ve never heard your band so I won’t comment on what you sound like, but learn to take some criticism. Throwing your toys out of the pram in such a way just makes you appear like a bunch of amateurs who can’t accept anyone saying anything negative about you. Oh and the fact that the review appeared on the 5th of November and all your replies appeared a month later withing 24 hours of each other makes it pretty apparent your prentending to be several different people (that’s if the duplicate ip addresses didn’t give it away!) in future think a little and to be more subtle.
Oh and “said”, Misty’s Big Adventure are hands down the best band in the country truly enjoyable, entertaining and original. That must be blatantly apparent to everyone.
Pete- excellent website, really enjoyed the GDFAF feature. Must admit this thread has made me chuckle, the witty, literate retorts of the Sweet Lilly fans are a joy to behold!
Forgot to add, always good to see a HMHB reference
One of the saddest things about the internet mobilisation of band fans is that you can get hordes of kids to flame reviewers.
If you can’t accept a bad review and get on with your life, don’t engage in any artistic practise for public consumption.
Reacting or replying to negative reviews has to be one of the most pathetic displays in musical life.
sweet lilly r the best!!!!
Misty’s Big Adventure? Some people are easily pleased. If thats how the music industry is shaping up then I think I’ll go listen to some musical wanking…….sorry…..Jazz.
Fucking students…i hate-um. Long live Paul Calf
Excellent way to end a long hard Friday. Gave me a chuckle if nothing else.
“Sweat Lolly”… ace.
shut up sweet lilly are only stickin up 4 themselves!!so do us all a favour, n dont bother replyin!
I hope you come to another gig in the future Pete so I can pull your head out of your arse and replace it with your camera…….Now fuck off!!
well said!!!
To the anonymous poster who left their comments at 3.03pm, Misty’s Big Adventure in the last eighteen months have supported Jeffrey Lewis, The Zutons and The Magic Numbers and have received the patronage of Rob Da Bank, Huw Stevens, John Kennedy, Phill Jupitus, Tom Robinson, Steve Lamacq and Claire Sturgess (‘The Story Of Love’ was her single of the week) along, of course, with the late John Peel. They also have an ever increasing fanbase and I’ve spoken to numerous people at gigs who went to see other bands and ended up loving Misty’s, fans of Absent Kid, The Pipettes, New Rhodes and Yeti last week for example. Their most recent album ‘The Black Hole’ received glowing reviews (do a google search for Misty’s Big Adventure).They’re playing an eagerly anticipated Xfm Xposure night on Thursday, have a Radio 1 OneMusic session this week and are tipped to gain at least one, if not several entries in this year’s Festive Fifty. Last month’s The Word magazine had a track of their’s on the Now Hear This CD and said some very nice things about them. So it appears that they are going to do fairly well for themselves. They are also a very nice bunch of people and have a sound that is completely unique.
I’m not quite sure what you mean by: “If thats how the music industry is shaping up” but if you mean that Misty’s Big Adventure appear to have a very bright future, then yes that is true. I guess what your saying is that their music is not for you, which is fine, I’m not affiliated with the band in any way, but I’m sure they can accept criticism without getting unduly upset. However if you said what it is you dislike about them your comments may carry more weight. I assume that ultimately you like a relatively narrow spectrum of music, which is your prerogative.
Was your student comment aimed at me? If so I’m afraid it is unfounded, I graduated two and a half years ago.
In my eyes your still a student
Up Man City
Okay fair enough, you VAT inspectors are all the same
Oh and it’s “you’re”, it’s a contraction of “you” and “are” you see, simple.
Fucking tweed jacket brigade
I see you’ve gained a name, well done. Not quite sure how many “students” wear “tweed jackets” but you can make up what you like, it doesn’t bother me. I have no desire to turn this into a flame war. You like Sweet Lilly whereas I like Misty’s Big Adventure You don’t like this website (and yet seem to spend an awfully large amount of time on it) whereas I do. I know how to construct a sentence, and you, well to be polite, don’t have the greatest grasp of spelling, punctuation or grammar.
Once again I don’t want to turn this into a flame war, lets agree to differ and stop clogging up Pete’s blog with this nonsense.
SWCAC, in whole-hearted agreement with your posts, please allow me to interpret you last one into a ‘language’ the sweaty chimps may comprehend (no responsbility accepted by the author for creative interpretation):
I c u av gnd a nm, wl dun! Innit! Nt qwite sr ow mny ’stoodies’ wr ‘tweeeeeed’iniit’jackets’ bt u cn mk up wot u lik, it dont bov me innit. I av no dsre to turn dis into fire war innit. U like ***** ***** but me lik ****** *** *********, u gt me, boi? U like webbin dis site bg style m8 bt prtnd 2 dis it. We speak da Qu33n’s 3nglish and you speak Sh0ite. Stop da disrepek n 4 fks s8k stop flumpin Da Boi Pete’s blg.
Good grief, pardon me as I am just off to scrub my hands with swarfiga following that episode. I feel violated.
WEST SIDE!Pete from SL here again. I havnt looked at this blog for a day or two now, but it looks like I was right in my prediction of it evolving into a forum for musically orrientated rowdy Brummies! Everyone who has commented has had a valid point, and as stipulated in a previous comment, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It would be boring if we all thought the same. My only gripe with Pete Ashton was that he seemed to enjoy criticising us and expressed himself in a manner suggesting he was in fact writing the music review in NME or THE TIMES.
Oh well, im off to Morrisons now to by myself another Home Wine Kit, because unfortunatley for me I never went to university, I only went to college, so my average wage job does’nt allow me to afford proper booze. Aleast im not like those wankers who live on the street and drink meths. But again i cant afford meths. Anyone out there got any lighter fuel i can sup on tonight? INNIT
I’m not university educated but I’m hapy enough to say that the ’side’ who come across as cretinous here are the members/supporters of Sweet Lilly.
Here’s the thing – Pete didn’t like them, fair enough, but after reading his review I still wouldn’t have been necessarily averse to seeing them. After reading their idiotic attempts to defend themselves here I probably would be.
y do u keep replyin 2 us sweet lilly fans, we aint gonna stop so piss off!!!
Oh dear! Whoever keeps retorting with childish txt like replies is not doing SL any favours. Bow down gracefully and accept criticism, to a point. Do however keep looking at this sight. I personally find it hilarious! Mind you, as I have since left the band, I wonder if this may have, in fact, got SL an intrieged following? We shall see come the new year. ALLES KLA!
We are all down to earth hard working lads and lassies, but some of us can spell.
where’s the love?
An honest opinion is a valued thing – it should be nutured & cherished – or pointedly ignored
I’ve had both & I always ended up feeling more disturbed by a good review of a review than a bad review – but in the end – erasing them from your memory is the best approach – swaying to any opinion is a bad thing.
Music is about passion – so ‘debate’ about it can be… um… passionate (I guess)
all on diplay here – yup.
i chuckle inwardly though – as the ‘defence’ works counter & just pushes the google ranking up – as google note the traffic & linkage
but let me type a quote from ‘Atomic City Tales #2′ (got it in a sale recently) by Jay Stephens (is a good comic – but there’s some ‘essence’ missing in it on the whole)
this sequence of captions sprang to mind reading all the above:
me – i never went to uni – dropped out of college – but always maintained a curiosity
i donated to pete’s gig going thing – so i might have inadvertedly helped him to see thins gig & be evidently bored by the blandness – the lack of ‘challenge’ laid down by said band.
ne’er mind
ooh look a spam link:
http://sevcom.com/newcastle.html
actually – no – it’s a band I like & I want to share with you
bugger
me blockquote were shafted by the ‘p’ formatting on line breaks
I ventured out once, I saw people, trees and shops, but I couldn’t figure out how to click on them!
Yeah, i did that once too. Turns out you need a “cumpoota” and “intanet”?!
who gives a fuck bout this anymre.
new yr, and a new era 4 the band.
rock n roll lads 4 the yr ahed gud luck and enjoy every bit of it.
i love pete ashton
Does anyone know when they are doing another gig and where?